{"id":6078,"date":"2014-08-18T18:05:26","date_gmt":"2014-08-18T22:05:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/staging.communify.me\/newvinegrowing\/?p=6078"},"modified":"2019-06-07T13:38:48","modified_gmt":"2019-06-07T17:38:48","slug":"could-we-form-a-creative-collective-house-in-brooklyn","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/staging.communify.me\/newvinegrowing\/could-we-form-a-creative-collective-house-in-brooklyn\/","title":{"rendered":"Could we form a creative collective house in Brooklyn?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Even before we moved to New York City, John and I had a lot of conversations about how long we&#8217;d like to live here. It was not a foregone conclusion that we&#8217;d be lifelong New Yorkers.<br \/>\nNow that we&#8217;re here, it&#8217;s both maddeningly expensive and difficult to imagine leaving.<br \/>\nWe recently visited our home state, Michigan, which renewed intense discussions about longing for more living space, and for me, outdoor space where I could garden and have a grill and maybe even a dog.<br \/>\nThen the New York Times ran a story this weekend headlined <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2014\/08\/17\/realestate\/sharing-a-new-york-apartment-by-choice.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">&#8220;The Buddy System: Sharing a New York Apartment by Choice<\/a>.&#8221; It tells the story of New Yorkers who opt to live with other people as a lifestyle decision.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>For the fresh-out-of-college transplants eager to make New York home, living in shared quarters is a rite of passage. What with the monthly tariff for a studio as high as $2,777 in Manhattan and almost $2,600 in Brooklyn, according to the real estate appraiser Miller Samuel, the young and the nestless often must resign themselves to a term of communal habitation in a cozy one-bedroom that becomes a two- or three-bedroom with the aid of a drywall partition. Peace and privacy are about as likely as a Viking stove, and many tenants count the days and dollars until they can sign a lease that\u2019s theirs, all theirs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\">Yet some whose W-2s easily qualify them for a place of their own \u2014 the standard metric is a salary that is 40 to 50 times the monthly rent \u2014 nonetheless want to share. They\u2019ve found that the advantages of living solo \u2014 guests are entirely of your choosing, the mess entirely of your making to be cleaned up (or not) when you\u2019re good and ready \u2014 are outweighed by the benefits of living with others.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\">That got me reminiscing about <a href=\"https:\/\/newvinegrowing.wordpress.com\/2012\/10\/03\/living-someplace-else-temporarily\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the month we spent living in San Francisco<\/a>. We lived in one bedroom of a five-bedroom apartment, sharing a beautiful home with five young people who very likely could have afforded to live solo but instead chose a more communal approach. I enjoyed sharing meals with our smart, welcoming roommates, and was surprised how much privacy I still felt since our bedroom included a couch and coffee table for when we didn&#8217;t want to be in the common space.<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\">John and I both initially resisted the SF shared space, figuring we were way too old for roommates, but came to realize that it&#8217;s different living with responsible grown ups who can afford a cleaning service.<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\">This weekend I started looking around at real estate listings, both rentals and places for sale, and wondering if we could pull together a group of three or four creative people who might spend about $2,000 a person for something dramatically different from what you can get solo. Yes, you have to share a kitchen and cooperate on use of the living room, but you could also have a backyard, as well as some other intangible perks.<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\">John and I don&#8217;t plan to have children, so creating an intentional community could mean coming home to other people interested in hosting spaghetti dinners and living room shows, art shows and film screenings. I envision less of a boarding house and more a creative hive.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_6079\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-6079\" style=\"width: 477px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.corcoran.com\/nyc\/Listings\/Display\/3196545\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-6079\" src=\"https:\/\/staging.communify.me\/newvinegrowing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/house-hunting-august-2014.jpg\" alt=\"This enormous place in Ditmas Park includes a former doctor's office with a separate entrance and a top-floor rec room with a pool table.\" width=\"477\" height=\"265\" srcset=\"https:\/\/staging.communify.me\/newvinegrowing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/house-hunting-august-2014.jpg 965w, https:\/\/staging.communify.me\/newvinegrowing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/house-hunting-august-2014-300x167.jpg 300w, https:\/\/staging.communify.me\/newvinegrowing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/house-hunting-august-2014-768x427.jpg 768w, https:\/\/staging.communify.me\/newvinegrowing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/house-hunting-august-2014-370x206.jpg 370w, https:\/\/staging.communify.me\/newvinegrowing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/house-hunting-august-2014-770x428.jpg 770w, https:\/\/staging.communify.me\/newvinegrowing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/house-hunting-august-2014-600x334.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 477px) 100vw, 477px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-6079\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">This enormous place in Ditmas Park includes a former doctor&#8217;s office with a separate entrance and a top-floor rec room with a pool table.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\">That gets me to places <a href=\"http:\/\/www.corcoran.com\/nyc\/Listings\/Display\/3196545\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">like this one for sale in Ditmas Park<\/a>\u00a0and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.corcoran.com\/nyc\/Listings\/Display\/3308767\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">this one for rent<\/a>\u00a0&#8212; big, sprawling, suburban-like houses with porches, yards and basements.<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\">I got excited as I imagined having some of those things we gave up when we left the Midwest while still being on a subway line.<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\">My heart started racing when I pictured doing that by creating a creative cohousing collective.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_6080\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-6080\" style=\"width: 475px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.corcoran.com\/nyc\/Listings\/Display\/3308767\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-6080\" src=\"https:\/\/staging.communify.me\/newvinegrowing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/house-hunting-august-2014-rental.jpg\" alt=\"This Ditmas Park rental already has a studio in the basement, along with a big, open kitchen and a formal dining room. \" width=\"475\" height=\"267\" srcset=\"https:\/\/staging.communify.me\/newvinegrowing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/house-hunting-august-2014-rental.jpg 939w, https:\/\/staging.communify.me\/newvinegrowing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/house-hunting-august-2014-rental-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/staging.communify.me\/newvinegrowing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/house-hunting-august-2014-rental-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/staging.communify.me\/newvinegrowing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/house-hunting-august-2014-rental-370x208.jpg 370w, https:\/\/staging.communify.me\/newvinegrowing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/house-hunting-august-2014-rental-555x312.jpg 555w, https:\/\/staging.communify.me\/newvinegrowing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/house-hunting-august-2014-rental-770x433.jpg 770w, https:\/\/staging.communify.me\/newvinegrowing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/house-hunting-august-2014-rental-600x337.jpg 600w, https:\/\/staging.communify.me\/newvinegrowing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/house-hunting-august-2014-rental-270x152.jpg 270w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 475px) 100vw, 475px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-6080\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">This Ditmas Park rental already has a studio in the basement, along with a big, open kitchen and a formal dining room.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\">I love the amenities in our current neighborhood. We&#8217;re just a few\u00a0blocks from the East River, where we walk in the new Brooklyn Bridge Park nearly every morning. Just about anything we could ever want in the way of restaurants, bars, grocery shopping, clothing shopping, you name it, is within about a 10-minute walk.<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\">But could we give up some of those considerable niceties and move\u00a0deeper into Brooklyn if it meant a better quality of life at home? It seems an awful lot of our friends are already doing that already, so maybe we&#8217;d just be part of the wave of middle-aged yuppies pushing to the other side of Prospect Park.<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2014\/08\/17\/realestate\/sharing-a-new-york-apartment-by-choice.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Times article concludes<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\">\u201cI saw so many of my friends in their 40s living alone and becoming so maniacal and neurotic,\u201d she said. \u201cI didn\u2019t want that for myself. I want to be the kind of person who could live with people in my 70s and be fine with it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\">\u201cWhen I\u2019m that age I want to live in the house of \u2018The Golden Girls,\u2019\u00a0\u201d she said, referring to the old sitcom about a quartet of cohabiting senior citizens. \u201cThat\u2019s what I look forward to. Sharing an apartment with Jorge is definitely my first step there.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\"><strong>Does the idea of living in a creative community house appeal to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Even before we moved to New York City, John and I had a lot of conversations about how long we&#8217;d like to live here. It was not a foregone conclusion that we&#8217;d be lifelong New Yorkers. Now that we&#8217;re here, it&#8217;s both maddeningly expensive and difficult to imagine leaving. 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